10 y/o Told To Take Out Piercings
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Topic: 10 y/o Told To Take Out Piercings
Posted By: Adam
Subject: 10 y/o Told To Take Out Piercings
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 11:39am
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"A Napier mother has been asked to remove her 10-year-old old son's facial piercings because of "safety issues". Shaquille Rollinson got the piercings through his right eyebrow and his lower lip two years ago, with his mother Donna's permission, because they were "cool". Ms Rollinson said she was "shocked" to receive a call from suburban Onekawa Primary School's principal last week condemning her son Shaquille's piercings. "He lectured me, and basically told me he shouldn't have been allowed to get it, and I should be a more responsible parent," she told Hawke's Bay Today. She said neither she nor Shaquille knew the school frowned on piercings as it did not have a uniform or dress code, and there were no clauses about piercings in the school policy. Ms Rollinson conceded it was unusual for a child to have facial piercings, but Shaquille "saved and saved" to get his and looked after them very carefully. She said the school was "over-reacting" and there were "plenty" of pupils with belly-button piercings who were not singled out. "This is primary school. Shaquille's there to learn, not cause trouble. As long as he covers it up, it shouldn't have anything to do with his education." Principal Wayne Keats said 10-year-olds were prone to playing rough and the school was concerned Shaquille's piercings could cause him an injury. He also had concerns about the "appropriateness" of the piercings at school." http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4001988a7694.html - Source If you had (or have) a 10 year old, would you let them get facial piercings? ------------- 
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Posted By: playgrouppoop
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 11:48am
| true - 10year olds are prone to accidents and fighting, but...if its his choice then he'll have to take care of them! and he probly will! i think its ridiculous to ban piercings from schools...its like people tart up their hair...dont have a go at them bout that! silly stuff. it does not effect education nor attitude, its a personal novelty and we choose to have them..deary me. |
Posted By: Apophis
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 11:53am
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That kid kicks ass. That is all. |
Posted By: eatyourbiscuit
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 12:07pm
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I had my ears pierced when I was about 10, and by the time I was turning 13 I had my eyebrow done too. I was lucky and my school were very accepting of it ( well with the exception of the PE department who had a strong distaste for me). If a ten year old wants to be pierced and understands the risks let them do it in a safe way. It certainly tought me a lot about my body at a young age. People just have to be careful and sensible when it comes to kids obviously. As for the risk of piercings being ripped out or injured when playing its just part of growing up if you ask me... In summery, if the kid wants it and understands it and even saves up for it themselves why is it a problem. I think the problem is when parents change their childrens bodies against their will but that is a different kettle of abusive fish. Andy |
Posted By: OpheliaImmortal
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 12:12pm
He's 10 now, so he got them when he was 8??  I don't think that's right, i don't care if he 'saved and saved' and looks after them real carefully, i think is too young. Age restrictions on body mods are there for a reason. |
Posted By: piercedmama
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 12:18pm
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I'm gonna have to agree with OpheliaImmortal on this one, 8 id too young in my opinion to have facial piercings. It seems as if it turned out fine for him and he paid for them and took care of them, but I still think it's too young. My daughter is 6 and there is no way I would allow her to get any mods in two years. I will consider some at 14 but not before that. Besides there is no shop around here that will pierce anyone under 14.
------------- Judge me all you want, but keep the verdict to yourself. |
Posted By: The_Sneek
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 12:26pm
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its shitty to think that the kid is getting persacuted for his piercings though 10 is kinda young i could see more like 14-16. As for the ruff housing thing well there are adults who get there piercings riped out in fightes and beyond that a guy i know who runs a shop took out his bridge due to the fact that his t shirts whould snag it and it was uncomfortable... even after all this i have friends who work in a higher end daycare who have faciel piercings and there is no trouble and the kids that there around are only 2-6. pieces of this are just rediculous and some of it is understandable....
------------- Cheers, -The Sneek [ |
Posted By: BxtremeDmodSxM
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 12:37pm
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well 8 is a pretty ridiculous age - but parents allow their infants to get ear piercings. It is somewhat unusual to see an 8 yr old with an eyebrow piercing but it shouldnt be frowed upon. I wouldnt let my child get any facial piercings at 8 yrs old but like piercedmama said- probably 14. I started stretching my ears when I was 11. I was very cautious and patient when doing it,but not everyone is like that and that is where the risks come in. ------------- BxtremeDmodSxM "Where is fancy bred?In the heart or in the head?" |
Posted By: OpheliaImmortal
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 12:48pm
Yeah and most with guns  I guess 'cause ear piercings are seen as the most mainstream, comon and 'safe' piercings to get, therefore it's not frowned upon. I hate seeing infants with ear piercings... I forgot to say in my last post aswell, who would pierce a 8 or 10 years old lip and eyebrow anyway? back ally dodgy piercer? |
Posted By: BxtremeDmodSxM
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 12:55pm
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true- I know piercers that wont pierce 17 year olds he says "I wont pierce you even if you brought god in here with you. "
------------- BxtremeDmodSxM "Where is fancy bred?In the heart or in the head?" |
Posted By: OpheliaImmortal
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 12:59pm
LMAO  |
Posted By: BxtremeDmodSxM
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 1:21pm
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eheh yeah I was there with him and someone called and was like huh?! are you kidding me?!
------------- BxtremeDmodSxM "Where is fancy bred?In the heart or in the head?" |
Posted By: Dantes Lover
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 3:12pm
ditto. i'm totally piercing my children. ...just kidding :D ------------- Pierced, Stretched, Tattooed, Scarred, and Corseted. |
Posted By: x_Blood_Angel_x
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 3:28pm
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That is sort of wrong, but sort of.. rock on. I dunno, I sort of have mixed feelings about it... personally I wouldn't pierce a child before 14/15 but hey, whatever tickles your pickle I guess... ------------- Dance Like Nobody's Watching. Love like you've never been hurt. And when things are low, smile like you've never done it before. |
Posted By: socialcoma
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 4:07pm
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Classic example of culture dictating action in a microcosm and macrocosm.When is it right? When everyone else is doing it? When is it wrong? When no one does it?
I can't decide what's right for someone else's family unless there is some obvious abuse occuring. I can only decide what is right for me.
------------- they come with there umbilical cords in hand, looking for a place to plug them in |
Posted By: ASinfulStrange
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 5:04pm
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I agree with opheliaimmortal & piercedmama. Not only is that WAY too young (regardless of how "cool" it is) but I want to know who pierced him and why that person isn't in some seriously deep shit for doing it. I know here in VA it is ILLEGAL to pierce anyone under 16 even WITH parental consent. Some places it's illegal to pierce anyone under 18 even WITH parental consent. Yeah it's kick ass that the kid is into body mods and yeah it's wrong for public to make him take them out. *insert typical ranting about rebelion/it's my body/conforming/yada yada* My son is 5 and has "plans" for an aray of piercings & tattoos, but there is no way in fucking hell I would let him get any of it done before 14-15. Not because I'm mean/don't agree with it, but for two simple reasons.
1) No REPUTABLE shop would do it.
2) It's a major health risk!!! The body changes SOOOO much between 10 & 16 that pretty much anything he were to get would run a great risk of rejecting/migrating due to the rapid growth/changing of his body. Thus leaving him with nasty deformed scars.
I worry about the health of the children who's parents let them do this shit. And how absolutely disgusting the shops that these kids are getting taken to, to get these modifications done under 18. ------------- My name is Jes and that's only the begining of my problems. |
Posted By: Rouslan
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 6:21pm
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Sort of funny to see how many old spirited conservative bigots you can find amongst young-looking members of what I thought was my community.
Those 20 y.o. people are so old that they probably can't even remember what they were thinking when they were 10 years old. Or maybe they have never been dreaming of mods at that age and only started at 17 to get those mainstream fucking belly piercing and kickass scratch tattoo from the first shitty parlor down the street to look as cool as the crappy TV stars for brainless children?
Don't worry, dear bigots. Your children will probably be soooo happy with their conservative education. You probably won't see them with piercings at ten, but chances are high that with such parents like you, they will smoke at 11, be alcooholic at 12, smoke weed at 13 and take cocaine at 14. Probably to forget about their - deeply stupid - parents.
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Posted By: starsandspades
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 6:43pm
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i really just have one word...
wow ------------- I wanna get in trouble I wanna start a fight |
Posted By: mslizzzard
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 7:02pm
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A small child should not have any facial piercings. What the fuck is that mother smoking? She must be on crack. No way in hell is a 10 year old LITTLE BOY able to take care of a piercing. |
Posted By: witchy_kitty
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 7:24pm
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[QUOTE=Adam] "This is primary school. Shaquille's there to learn, not cause trouble. As long as he covers it up, it shouldn't have anything to do with his education." [QUOTE] It shouldn't have anything to do with his education even if they're not covered.
10 is pretty young to have piercings, but if he's able to properly take care of them (he's had them for 2 years so he must take care of them) then maybe having piercings will end up making him even more responsible.
As for the school, I think it's fucked up, he's had them for 2 years so why are they just now making a big deal out of it? ------------- Quick to judge Quick to anger Slow to understand Ignorance and prejudice And fear walk hand in hand...Rush;Witchhunt |
Posted By: Mizz_Anthropy
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 7:58pm
| i think once a kid has their own idea of what they're style is like, they can get piercings, sure...i hate parents that try to restrict their kids...whatever, piercings can be taken out when they get tired of it...tattoos will have to wait. |
Posted By: Tophurious
Date Posted: March/23/2007 at 11:25pm
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There is no real difference in my opinion of allowing a kid to have ear piercings or eyebrow. I am a strong believer in personal choice. If a person of any age wants a piercing bad enough, they should be allowed. (tattoos are slightly different due to the permanence). Piercings are not permanent so if they ever decide against them they can take them out. It's stupid to ban facial piercings and not belly button rings... sorry if the grammar and flow is off... i am on pain meds right now. |
Posted By: dragonfly
Date Posted: March/24/2007 at 12:16am
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as long as it doesnt affect their growth, it wouldnt bother me to have a kid that wants piercings. maybe one or two, not twenty or thirty until their older.i was 12 when i started piercing myself, so i figure if you dont let them live and learn a little, their going to go do the shit behind your back. a lot of schools are really against piercings. when we had our old principle at my shool, we couldnt had any kind of hoop in our piercings they had to be plugs, or very small or clear, stupid bullshit and it depended on whether or not that teacher liked you.
heres a story, about the kids doing shit behind their parents backs, i have a friend, shes 11. yes im 17, ok? shes adorable and worships me, but anyway, she was telling me about the time she went to the dentist and for some reason they gave her novacain, or however its spelled. before it wore off she stuck saftey pins through her lip, not once, but twice, she did snakebites. her mom flipped and made her take them out but she does plan to do it again next time she gets novacain from the dentist.
------------- its just one of those fucking days. |
Posted By: OpheliaImmortal
Date Posted: March/24/2007 at 10:57am
So those of us who don't agree with this, who won't let our kids get mods at 10 years old, that makes us bigots & stupid parents? so becuase they don't have piercings at 10 that'll turn them into alcoholic, smoking drugies i fail to see reasoning in that.No one said that from a young age they wouldn't TEACH their kids about body mods it's just some of us think 10 is a bit too young to actually HAVE mods. |
Posted By: BxtremeDmodSxM
Date Posted: March/24/2007 at 1:34pm
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I think alot of you guys over reacted about this post- as rouslan said "Those 20 y.o. people are so old that they probably can't even remember what they were thinking when they were 10 years old." I did not think of it that way. Thats a good way to think of this situation. I'm sure there are some among us who were into body modification at a young age and attempted to do something about it. I pierced my ears myself at the age of 10. Kids will do or want anything at a young age- its where they start to become a individual or atleast try to. ------------- BxtremeDmodSxM "Where is fancy bred?In the heart or in the head?" |
Posted By: piercer adam
Date Posted: March/24/2007 at 10:02pm
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do people not know about federal laws?it is against federal laws to do intra oral piercings on a minor.it is considered sexual assault on a minor and the parents are considered putting their child in a sexual situation. not cool for piercer,parents and the kid is no cooler than he was already. |
Posted By: iamstrangepants
Date Posted: March/24/2007 at 11:43pm
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intra oral? Like mouth? i know thats not true where i live (california) because there are MANY teenagers with their tounges pierced who are under 18.. as long as you have a parent with you. |
Posted By: socialcoma
Date Posted: March/25/2007 at 2:08am
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since when is preteen drug use such a bad thing anyways? I'm glad I got most of my hard partying done early (teen years to be exact) so I could enjoy being an adult instead of spending my young adult years in some lame bar hanging out with a bunch of losers who can't handle their shit. I wish I would have had the chance to start partying in elementary school so I could have enjoyed being a teenager even more. I love belly button piercings. sexy I definetly love impulsive teenage scratch tattoo's. I love conservative bigots, everyone needs love...especially people filled with ignorance, greed and hatred.
I even love Rouslan even though he's been a bit grouchy latley. ------------- they come with there umbilical cords in hand, looking for a place to plug them in |
Posted By: metalbabe
Date Posted: March/25/2007 at 8:09am
lately is an understatement  but we still love him teehee  anyway. i don't know really.... i can understand the pro's and cons of this. i'd rather pay a good piercer than have my kid do it with safety pins/ sewing needles/ studs/ guns behind my back..... and maybe having piercings will have its same effect on this boy as it does on me i.e. it keeps me out of fights cos i'm scared they'd get ripped out.... which is a good thing cos they keep me out of trouble. then again, i don't like seeing young kids with piercings. i did get my first 'piercing' at 12...... which hasnt healed properly up till ow cos it was in my upper ear done with a gun. stupid me. i wish i had a parent like this boy's that would have taken me to a studio to get it done properly. i got both my right nostril piercings done before i was 16. with a gun. luckily they healed fine. but yeah. i don't know what i'd do. anything younger than 10 is a no-no methinks...... but as soon as they're in secondary school, i'd consider allowing maybe a nostril or 2. so basically 11 upwards can be ok. but before i find myself in that position i can't say anything. i'm not a parent. i only have a younger sister i can think of to put myself in this position. i told her to wait till she's older to get a 2nd lobe piercing. i would have taken her myself. but she did it with a stud. so idk......... we'll see. ------------- Perplexing people since 1986 |
Posted By: wrestlingrox
Date Posted: March/25/2007 at 9:41am
| I wouldn't let my child get facial piercings at 8 but thats just me. Like some pople have said, I wonder who pierced this kid at age 8 cause in Florida where I live you can't even get a piercing if your under 14 by a professional. |
Posted By: bellenarcissa
Date Posted: March/25/2007 at 11:29am
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My husband and I both agree that as soon as a child wants to
be pierced, it should be allowed...although I would put restrictions on
piercings with a high rejection rate...say, 13-15 range would be better for
those types, and absolutely no genital piercings until they turn 18. |
Posted By: piercer adam
Date Posted: March/25/2007 at 6:40pm
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you must not know...they are federal laws not state laws.and that means all states must abide by federal laws unless that state has an equal or harsher law on the subject in matter.any person who pierces a minor intra oral(any thing that goes into the oral cavity) or genitals should really check his/her morals and standards. a minor is a minor no matter what. |
Posted By: Rouslan
Date Posted: March/25/2007 at 7:23pm
| You must not know, piercer Adam, that federal laws apply for 5% of humanity. |
Posted By: bttrfly76
Date Posted: March/25/2007 at 10:28pm
I can remember at the age of 10 and younger wanting to get tattoos and piercings. And when my mother said no, I was sitting in my room with sewing needles and safety pins playing with different piercings. At the time it was the closest thing I could get to the real thing. I know from being that age that kids who get told no go behind their parents backs and do it anyways. At least this mom was responsible enough and took her kid to a professional. And maybe they have a friend who is a piercer. Look at it this way, at least the kid went out and got a piercing instead of a tattoo. When you get tired of a piercing you can take them out, no real damage done. Just a small scar. As opposed to tattoos that cost thousands of dollars to get removed and leave a huge scar. Look at all the mothers out there who get their small infant daughters ears pierced. That small child has no say in any part of whats going on,but moms think it's so adorable to get their child's ears pierced so they bring them to some girl working a job while she's in high school, instead of waiting until the child is older and can make their own decisions. I agree with the age restrictions on tattoos,but piercings are different. Different in the sense that they can be taken out. An eyebrow piercing is no different than an ear piercing or a lip piercing. The only difference is the placement of the metal. Its a 10 year old kid branching out in his own personality and learning to take on responsibility. I see nothing wrong with it. ------------- |
Posted By: bellenarcissa
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 10:01am
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yes but 99% of kids wouldn't take care of their piercings either... kids are sort of idiots about that stuff... One of my friends in 5th grade almost lost part of her ear because she didn't take care of her piercing. Luckily, my OCD forced me to painstakingly care for each and every
wound/piercing/bug bite I had...so I never got infections in anything.
(until last year when I had my Monroe get infected, which sucked) And saying you might as well allow someone to do something because they're going to do it anyway, is just downright bad parenting. Kids will do anything if they think they can get away with it. Just because a 10 year old will sneak ciggarettes behind his parent's back doesn't mean you should allow it to go on. |
Posted By: piercer adam
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 3:57pm
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well played..well played. but we are that 5%.so i do know.it is my job to know what laws i need to follow.state or federal.there are states that do not regulate their piercers and then it becomes the piercers them self that need to step up and find out what laws apply to the piercing community and follow them.we walk a thin line on somethings and we all need to account for our actions no matter how minor they are.it is those small details that set us apart from the other guys that don't care about them selfs the shop and most of all the client.morals,ethics and standards are what make us body piercers,modification artists and a good industry in whole. no one should dictate what we can and can not do to our body(thanks bear). but kids do not think about the long run affects of being pierced i.e scars,getting riped out,infections and so on.most adults barely understand these concepts,and i am suppost to believe a ten year old doe's?you all thought you new all about every thing at ten.i did.and i was wrong like every one else. |
Posted By: OpheliaImmortal
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 4:05pm
Well said.
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Posted By: cherry_slices
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 4:48pm
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wow, personally i think thats too young for facial piercings, because at that age your still growing.. you know? i think its great that he's into the whole culture and everything but its bad parenting.. and bad piercer-professionalism.. ------------- Shes Back. |
Posted By: Rouslan
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 6:57pm
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Age and social acceptance.
Some ideas :
In the bible, you can find out a clear passage where a guy and a woman get married, get their own house and start their life. They are 12 and 11 years old.
In New Zealand and in Tahiti, full body tattoo started being performed at the age of 11 for those who could afford it. Therefore, unless you consider that maori and polynesian tattoo art were pure crap (please send in your nude pictures so that I can compare the harmony of your full body suit with the ones of those primitive savages), you have to admit that it's fully viable, both from technical and artistic standard, to get tattoos as a children.
It is socialy acceptable to see babies with ear piercings. Even if I disagree with such a practise, I have to say that I can't see any difference between a hole in the ear, in the nose or in any other visible part of a human face. Therefore, if a lot of people seem to find it acceptable to pierce their children against their wills, I find it acceptable to let a children what he wants with what is HIS body.
"he won't be able to do the aftercare" : I have more than 70 piercings. All are self done, and I guess that I can say that some of them are not the easiest ones from technical point of view. I have NEVER done any kind of aftercare apart from hygiene, and can tell you that YOU DON'T NEED MORE to heal up a piercing. If you wish to spend hours cleaning up (and quite certainly irritating) your pretty holes, it's up to you...
Anyway, if you tell him no while you're pierced-tattoed yourself, you have strictly no credibility.
"Just because a 10 year old will sneak ciggarettes behind his parent's back doesn't mean you should allow it to go on."
Well ... maybe, you certainly have to set up rules for a kid, but I know more people that died from diseases linked with ciggarettes than people who died because of piercings. By the way, piercing your own body does not harms your vicinity whereas smoke can kill your close relatives.
On the whole, it's up to EVERY reasonnable parent to set up his own limits for his kids. It's certainly not the role of society to set up those rules. Piercings, tattoos are another form of self expression, an act of freedom. Most of you share that view. Therefore, it's not up to you to say that you think that 10 isn't reasonnable, and that 16 is good...
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Posted By: Rouslan
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 7:04pm
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"just because a 10 year old will".... A10 year old isn't a thing, or a creature that is sooo inferior to you. A 10 year old is a human being. A 10 year old is ALWAYS a different person. We are all different. Some 10 years old children are retarded, some are geniuses. Some can understand evoluated notions while some other ones may be perfect idiots. Some 12 years old girls are already able to act like adult women. We are all different, so I think that as a parent, the first thing you have to do is not to consider your kid as a "10 year old", but as a person, which in some cases may perfectly be able to deal with a piercing or a tattoo.
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Posted By: Rouslan
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 7:07pm
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... and for the last time, pierceradam, no WE are not that 5%. When you talk about what you think, what you consider true, what you consider reasonnable, what you consider just, it's always a sign of good mental health to use "I" instead of "we".
Furthermore using "we" instead of "I" when you express your ideas also shows that you're not that sure of what you say...
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Posted By: jojochey
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 7:34pm
hey i got my tounge pierced when i was 11 and ny belly button when i was 9 yeh its young but who the fuck r they to judge rock on kid ROCK ON!
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Posted By: piercer adam
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 8:40pm
| my bad.I mean,I am a u.s citizen and we as u.s citizen's are that 5%.thank you for the grammar lesson I will keep it all in mind next time.i do agree with most of what you speak,but the industry in the u.s has laws.and no matter who you are or what your view of said laws are.if you are breaking any laws in what you pierce and whom you pierce what else are you doing?if the morals and ethics are set aside to give a minor what they want what else are they slacking on?is their shop clean?do they sterilize their tools?are needles single use?do they know what they are doing?even if they answer with what i want to hear why should i believe them?they are already breaking laws!they have discredited them selfs. |
Posted By: piercer adam
Date Posted: March/26/2007 at 10:24pm
| in my years i have seen many minors with messed up piercing and have help them with various problems.i would have liked to see them wait for their piercings but what's done is done.i have refused piercing service to minors in the past and then had them come in a few days or weeks and have helped them deal with mishaps arising from either the person piercing or having a friend pierce them.some not so pretty.it is my responsibly as a piercer to help in any way i am allowed to(abiding by shop policy's or laws).as i may not agree with some laws i am oblagated to up hold them.many cultures and countries have diffrent views on what is acceptable and what is not. |
Posted By: psycho*cherries
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 2:06am
well said ------------- Pain Is Pleasure |
Posted By: you-fail-me
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 11:39am
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Piercing kids, in my opionion, is never right. Wait until they are an adult when they are old enough to make their own decisions.
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Posted By: Rouslan
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 2:45pm
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Well, you-fail-me, what do you think is more serious? Choosing your studies and path in life, or having some piercing? Undoubtfully choosing your future career, right? If you consider them unable to make such a light choice like having a piercing, I guess that you'll be the one to chose their studies as well, and their boy/girlfriends, and so on... Once again, some of us are mature enough to have sexual relationships at 13, some other at 23. Some people are able to work and pay their bills at 16, some other stay at their parent's home till 30 or even later.
In other words, do you consider that a guy living at home with his parents at 24, who has never had sexual relationship, who has never worked has the right to do almost anything he wants because 24=18+6 and that some other guy, living at home with his parents at 13, who will quit his home at 16 to start a job, pay his bills, meet a woman and have a kid at 17 can't have a piercing because 13=18-5?
Strange way to think. And when you'll have children, I guess they'll be happy to have a mother covered with tattoos, loving body mods, telling them that "piercing kids, in my opinion, is never right".
Ok, you won't pierce them, you won't bring them to a pro, and they will play with needles, get crap tattoos and nasty infections. Can't you really remember what you were thinking when you were 10 or 12 years old? I guess you already had body mods in mind, at least as a dream, or a fantasy. Have you ideas changed since that time?
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Posted By: Rouslan
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 2:50pm
| ... and Rosie, your tattoos kick ass. Would you be my mother and tell me what you said above, seriously Rosie I would laugh at you till the end of time :o) |
Posted By: BxtremeDmodSxM
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 4:25pm
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Just because someone is 10 and gets a piercing does not mean that they will probably not keep up with hygiene and after care. Being 10 does not make you irrisponsible.By the age of 10 most youngins know whats right from wrong and can understand what is appealing to them. now...Tattoos on a 10 year old should be more of an issue than a piercing. I'm sure if alot of you got tattoos at the age of 10 you might regret a few, or all of them.
------------- BxtremeDmodSxM "Where is fancy bred?In the heart or in the head?" |
Posted By: 1piercedguy
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 5:49pm
| i'm sorry Rouslan much respect and all but a 10 year old is a child and a child needs boundaries he was 8 when he got them. 8 years old have you talked to an 8 year old recently i have and i would have to say i personally don't think they,on average, are smart or mature enough to make that kind of decision.When they get older and they still want it then get it call it a right of passage with age,at least from my prospective,and while yes kids will be kids and do as the please but kids still need boundaries so they will make smarter choices as they grow into young adults to spoil a child with every whim and fad only leads to more problems later |
Posted By: finessvaness
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 8:08pm
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I happen to know that when I was 8 years old, I wanted a tongue piercing more than anything in the whole world. I didn't even have my ears pierced, but I wanted a tongue piercing. Of course my parents said, "no", I mean was I even old enough to take care of it? Finally, at the age of 14 when I pierced my own ears with safety pins (yeah yeah, not sterile, blah blah blah), my parents pretty much accepted my fate. And on my 16th birthday my father took me to get my nose pierced. (and then I followed with many other body modifications...).
Now that's just my story, and honestly, if I had gotten a tongue piercing at the age of 8, my life wouldn't likely be any different then it is right now. But I'm kind of glad that my parents made me wait.
On a side note, that principal can kiss my ass. Really, I'm sick of people who are so judgemental, and then they can never come right out and say, "No I didn't hire you, because you have facial piercings." They have to give some bogus reason like "I don't think you have enough cash experience" even when you've worked as a cashier for 3 freakin' years.
Anyway, if I could have chalumpas (and I mean children), I'd probably make them wait until 14-16 before they could get piercings. But even looking at my own personal "morals", I have no discouraging words for that mother, or her kid. Hell, he'll probably be the only 7th grader sporting a real mohawk (not one of those scabbie cunt faux hawks). ------------- Bed with me tonight, but forget me tomorrow. |
Posted By: 1piercedguy
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 9:46pm
| oh yeah and that principal can kiss my ass too what is done is done with parents consent is what is needed not some stuck up principal |
Posted By: piercer adam
Date Posted: March/27/2007 at 11:12pm
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new zealand has no regulations on tattoo's or piercing's.you can see 10-11 year olds with full facial tattoo's.it is their culture and heritage.and if it where our culture we would not have any problems with it.but it is not.
some countries consider tattoo' and piercing a general consumer product and have no laws or regulations on any of it.
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Posted By: you-fail-me
Date Posted: March/28/2007 at 9:54am
Well, Rouslan, how is that relevant to what I said? I said IN MY OPINION, that I thought it was never right to pierce a child. That's for me, personally.
I don't neccessarily think it is a negative thing stopping your kids from having choice....to a certain extent of course. For example, I won't want my kids to take smack either, is that stopping them from making their own decisions? Yes. Sometimes making decisions for minors can be a positive thing, hence why there are laws to protect them (tattooing/piercing/alcohol/smoking/etc).
This is precisely WHY my children would possibly listen to me, because I have experienced it first hand. I had piercings and tattoos well under the age of 16, and do I regret it? Of course. My body grew, and my tattoos grew with me. I have a scarred face where I had facial piercings at 12, and I wish if only my mother had stopped me.
I can see where you are coming from with some of your points, but at the end of the day, my stance is, I wouldn't want MY child to make some of the stupid mistakes I made.
As for other people's children, that's their choice, I don't have to agree with it and neither does anybody else. At the same time, we are not in a position to say what is right or wrong for someone else's child
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Posted By: xcharlottex
Date Posted: March/28/2007 at 10:03pm
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well,i got my nose pierced when i was 9 rofl and my grade school teacher called home about it! but i mean 8 is a little too young for a lip and eyebrow piercing!
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Posted By: mzphitt
Date Posted: March/30/2007 at 9:22pm
| you know - I know some kids, even some younger than eight, who are perfectly capable of making rational informed decisions - and parents who respect thier childrens' desires as valid despite the "trendyness" of those desires. I don't know if this ten year old is one of them or not, but I think its pretty immature for anyone to pass judgement against him or the parent - including the school principal. He is probably going to learn some increadibly valueable lessons from all the persecution. |
Posted By: x_Blood_Angel_x
Date Posted: March/31/2007 at 10:30am
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My niece is 8 in August... and I highly doubt she would be able to be responsible for any piercing. It depends on the kid. My other nice is almost 7 and I reckon she could probably handle it (though her mother wouldn't allow it, and she says she doesn't want piercings anway) It depends how the child is brought up. J (nearly 7) Was brought up around mainly adults, and is very grown up for her age, whereas K (almost 8) was brought up around children, and is about the right personality/mind set for her age. So, it all depends, there are many factors on letting your child mod or not mod... I don't personally give a flying... pig. If I thought my child was responsible at 8, I'd probably weigh up the pros and cons. And stuff like that. Aw, hell, I unno, I don't have kids... =/ ------------- Dance Like Nobody's Watching. Love like you've never been hurt. And when things are low, smile like you've never done it before. |
Posted By: RainbowBalloon
Date Posted: March/31/2007 at 12:52pm
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Since it is obvious the parent thought the kid could take care of it, and the fact that the kid saved up for it (showing he really wanted it), then I think it's okay. The kid had already had it 2 years, which means it didn't get grossly infected, migrate or anything else. I understand that the principal had concerns, but ear piercings are no different, they can be pulled out too. All piercings come with dangers, and as long as the child and parent understand the risks, I think it's okay. And in response to the people who hate seeing small children with pierced ears: When the child gets old enough to communicate, if the child doesn't like the earrings, surely they would let the parents know. If it really bothers the child, then I think any decent parent would take them out. It's just for aesthetics, just like pretty much everything else for babies. No biggie |
Posted By: 1piercedguy
Date Posted: March/31/2007 at 7:11pm
it's not a matter of Immatureness its a matter of where do we draw the line for tongue rings,lip rings,eyebrow rings, tattoos for a child.18,15,10,5 Six months old.Look at my baby its so cute i just got her belly button pierced last week its so cut haha or look at my 5 year old he really wanted this tattoo of the teletubbies he saved his allowance for a whole year to get it lol................ Yes some 8 year olds are very mature blah blah blah thats not really the point.there are reasons kids should not get tattoos,piercings, drivers license etc. etc. they are too young to understand the long term ramifications of the choices they make. personally I think parents need to let kids be kids not little adults. |
Posted By: 1piercedguy
Date Posted: March/31/2007 at 7:12pm
| and what parent wants there kid to get persecuted.....answer a bad parent |
Posted By: theragingbull
Date Posted: April/24/2007 at 12:53am
| oh wow this topic had good points on both sides I figured I'll throw in my 2 cents. As for piercings if you put too much restriction on your childern they are going to rebel and do eveything behind your back. If you are a little more leaneant on them they are more willing ot come to you and you both can make an informative decision on the matter if it pertains to piercings. As fo the age thing I don't think any form of facial percing should be done on untill yout 15/16 y.o. Heck the goverment thinks you can handel a motor vehicle that can kill someone at that age I think they are old enough to take care of a facial piercing. Other piercings like the belly button can be covered and ears are the norm. I have an 8 y.o daughter with 14g hoops in her bottom hole and 16 in her second. She's the only 3rd grader with 2 holes let along gagued up and she wants more in her ears and bigger. Am I a bad parent for considering it...I don't think so I'll do it properly and safely and with my supervision. If she wanted anything on her face nope she has to wait till 15/16. If your child wants to go that route (i.e ears) parents, supervise the kids so things dont go sour. Just when it comes to the face it cant be covered up. |
Posted By: chasey_lane
Date Posted: April/30/2007 at 8:20am
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I agree with member_profile%7EPF%7E25322%7EFID%7E14.htm - playgrouppoop Banning piercings is lame.. But eight is way to young. Whats cool now might not be later.. Little kids are rough, Don't care much for looking after things... if he cared so much as to have 'saved and saved' then im sure he will still be keen for them in 6 years, which he normally would have had to wait. |
Posted By: Mysstica
Date Posted: May/10/2007 at 2:33pm
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My husband and I have a son, and we've discussed this sort of thing before.
I figure that if our son wants to get something pierced, this is how we'll try to go about it:
After he tells us that he wants something done (which he probably won't, because who wants to be like their parents?) we'll have him research whatever piercing that he wants. He'll be expected to learn everything about it - how to care for it, how long the healing process is, what the risks are, etc. and write all of it down, sort of like a report. After it's written, and we've all discussed it and made sure that everyone knows everything about this piercing that we can, if he's earned the money to have it done, I figure that we'll let him get it done. I mean, if a child thinks that they want to get pierced up and then see something horrible (like some pictures of infections, etc. that I've come across), they may be like, "Hey! That's sick! I didn't know that could happen. Nasty! Nevermind!" (I think that way, they would also be dissuaded from trying to pierce something by theirselves after the fact.) If they go through everything, though, I think it would probably be fine. I mean, that's a lot of work, and if they go through all of that, I think that there is commitment there.
Sorry if this is rambly and difficult to follow.
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Posted By: InsaneIQ
Date Posted: May/17/2007 at 4:35am
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Kudos for the boy with the piercings. It takes guts few kids his age have. And kudos for the parent for being so liberal. I wish my parents were cool like that.
Whether or not the piercing would injure the child is none of the school's concern but the parents. The choice is his and his only; and so are the consequences. I just hope the parent and the piercer who performed those piercings were able to convey to this boy the lasting effects of his choice.
A facial piercing is no different than an ear lobe piercing. Any one of them could be ripped out during a fight. That was the only reason why I waited till adulthood to have my ears pierced; 'caused to get into fights a lot at school. But that's a whole other bag of warms regarding racial issues.
I think the principle should re-evaluate how he spends his time and energy. Instead of harassing kids about their appearances, perhaps he should spend some time on educating tolerance and non-violence. ------------- Violence solves everything! |
Posted By: InsaneIQ
Date Posted: May/17/2007 at 4:53am
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I like Mysstica's idea. **taking down notes for future reference**
If a child wants to get something pierced or tattooed, most likely they are going to get it done one way or another, with or without the parents' approval. So instead of them going behind your back to some shady ass place, why not have them be properly educated and the procedure done at a clean reputable studio.
Heck I'd probably be like "Let daddy pierce that for you" if my kid ever asked. Then I'd show'em my 4ga needle or 00ga dermal punch.......
I also believe it's wrong for parents to have their infant daughter's ears pierced just because it's a girl. What happens if the girl grows older and decides that she doesn't want to have pierced ears? I've seen many attractive adult females with unadulterated ear lobes who do not wish them pierced. The choice should be left to be made by the individual. Same goes for male circumcision.
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