the open source idea is a good one. although it is more behind the scenes and not discussed openly, my boy has looked into the make-up of the site itself and has pointed out some things for Adam, but it is up to Adam to let people in to help with the site make-up. my boy has great ideas for instance, but would never ask to help out openly. he would have to be asked to willingly help out. also a form of payment might be something some users are looking for, which in some cases i can understand but that might be what makes or breaks some users out there as selfish as it may be. we would also need users that could dedicate the time to it. if i was better with code and more behind the scenes computer stuff i'd be more than willing, but i am not.

once again about the forum topics it comes down to censorship again. if we go through renaming every topic into something the user is completely unhappy about or it is something they weren't asking or wondering about at all then the purpose of the thread is gone. the "is hellboy69 stupid" thread must've been created and removed in my absence because i don't recall seeing it. sure i can be blamed for all those types of threads flourishing but i am only human and i'm not at a computer all the time, nor am i online all the time. sure, i agree that we could use more moderators but the users also need to be more involved with reporting innapropriate threads because we can't always be there to keep an eye on things and we will miss things from time to time. posts pointed directly towards a member will often be taken care of yes, but posts showing ignorance towards a modification will not because we're here to open their eyes. i'm aware that the facial tattoo thread involves you, Rouslan, but it also involves many others. same with tattoos on females. those threads weren't created to reem out and hate on osers, but were looking for other perspectives on the subject and were created to see what others had to say about it, nice or not. if i was to moderate all those types of threads nothing from any different perspective would get across. if i took care of many of your posts alone nobody would see what you have had to say most of the time and seen the twisted, but eye opening side of things. the forums named were polls and more of a discussion related forum, whereas forums like "are all canadians with long hair stupid?" - although being a discussion forum - would be an obvious attack if users knew who the forum was pointed toward. mind you if it was created i wouldn't take care of it until a brawl broke out, but otherwise it could stay open.

i don't disagree that we need everything you've talked about. we could indeed use more "experienced" users here and we could indeed use more moderators to take care of the forums alone. the only issue is that we've got people coming here that aren't always interested in related discussion, and if we want to draw in other users we'd have to do something incredibly drastic, or completely limit what can be posted and go through and remove everything that has any slight deviation from whatever is being discussed. it is too much work for what we've got right now, and to get more related topics here and more people here that would stick to that we would need a huge change and i'm not sure how we'd even go about that completely. it is a big job to tackle with such few people here who have more power. strict rules just wouldn't be fun for everyone and a site only for professionals would kick most of us out. a median of the two would be great but there are definitely more modified people out there than experienced modified people.

Originally posted by eatenplacenta once again about the forum topics it comes down to censorship again. if we go through renaming every topic into something the user is completely unhappy about or it is something they weren't asking or wondering about at all then the purpose of the thread is gone.

Edited by Rouslan - September/29/2008 at 4:53am

Then maybe you both, as mods, eaten and cheese, should talk to Adam about open sourcing the code, and start some thread to see who on BodyMod is good at ASP.NET and would love to contribute. Maybe that would contribute to help the site being able to develop faster, and maybe this thread should be renamed in something like "Ideas to make the site better".

Edited by Rouslan - September/29/2008 at 5:20am

Well I honestly have to agree with Rouslan on this one. I don't think we should censor anything though I do think that the active threads lately have been somewhat boring (why I haven't been posting too much lately). And something really seriously needs to be done about pro status, while I'm not a pro it is annoying to see people who aren't real pros (and you know who you are!) have pro status something that should be reserved for actual pros.

Also while I don't think that the forums should be 100% bodymodification relted there seems to be a lack of theads on the more serious discussion of modifications. And I think we could use a bit more of that. Don't get me wrong I love this place and that's why I really don't want to see this place go down the toilet and turn into a myspace for the slightly modified,  not that there's anything wrong with being only slightly modified (I'm not very heavily modified my self yet actually though I will be someday hopefully) it's just that we have a large influx it seems of people posting who only have a slight interest in mods and come here only to socialize and post inane threads and play forum games, and that does seem to be diving away the more serious modders and especially the pros.

Again before I get anally raped for this post there's nothing wrong with coming here to socialize I mean I know I do but I also come here to discuss mods with people who are serious about body modification because well really I can't do that anywhere else. Sure there's places like IAM or inked nation but to be honest IAM has gone down the toilet completely and inked nation is more geared towards tattoos (something I don't have the largest interest in, pesonally I'm more interested in things like scarification piercing suspension and bodymod rituals like kavadi and such) than it is a full spectrum body modification  site like this one, and forget about serious discussion of mods off the internet. I don't know about anyone else but if I try and discuss mods with people (even pierced and tattooed people to a certain extent when discussing heavier mods) offline I get the weirdest looks and fucked up comments when I bring up things even as simple as a straight man having a Navel piercing or showing off my two tiny scars. So seriously lets look past the fact that Rouslan was a bit offensive in his approach (and if I know Rouslan he was only offensive to get all of our attention on this rather important subject) and get to trying to make this site a better place for all of us.


Edited by glimmi - September/29/2008 at 5:47am

Edited by Jesykka - September/29/2008 at 6:04am