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Total Mods: 0 Joined: July/22/2008 Posts: 176 |
![]() Posted: July/22/2008 at 5:17pm |
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they should all i am no professional, and they still came to me, if i hadn't they would have done it anyways, so it was a fun experiance for me and they are happy...for now at least.
i have been looking into getting a tattoo apprenticeship first, simply becuase they are easier to come across. i haven't seen anyone who has or offers scarification around here :( but i am looking
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Total Mods: 7 Joined: November/20/2007 Posts: 76 |
![]() Posted: July/22/2008 at 6:07pm |
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I really wouldn't admit to cutting your "druggie friends" with razorblades on a site like this. There are a lot of professionals on here who don't want the image of scarification tainted by people who don't know what they're doing. If you admit to things like that, you are liable to get verbally torn to shreds, lol.
I suggest you get a proper apprenticeship before you go cutting anyone else. If your friends have a choice between you and themselves, let them do it themselves. You wouldn't want the inevitable complications on your conscience, and they can learn from their mistakes if they do it themselves.
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"Yes, I may be a twat, but I sure know alot about iodine!"
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Total Mods: 10 Joined: August/02/2007 Posts: 679 |
![]() Posted: July/23/2008 at 7:56am |
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Taking money to permanently mark friends badly, with a risk of infection or serious complications is not ethically acceptable.
Even if they are stupid enough to let you do it. If they or you are stupid enough to do it to yourself then fine, it's your body to screw up. But.... How would you feel if one got a serious infection and lost a limb? How would you feel if a parent of a druggie friend convinces their kid to press assault charges? How would you feel if you got blood borne infection? The fact you are looking into it and asking questions is reassuring though. Stop with the razors and research. Lots. Ask questions. People here are often supportive of DIY, as long as people recognise their limitations, take good advice, and don't intentionally screw other people up. Look into aseptic technique first. The look into anatomy, in particular the skin and healing, as well as infection control and blood borne diseases. The look into First aid. Then ask questions and red forum posts. Then look into medical supplies. Then watch some videos, ask some questions. Maybe get the right scalpels and experiment safely on yourself. Keep asking questions. |
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![]() Posted: July/23/2008 at 8:04am |
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Thanks Oakbear.. I think a good, informative post was needed here. :D
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Total Mods: 0 Joined: July/22/2008 Posts: 176 |
![]() Posted: July/23/2008 at 10:12am |
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thank you, that is what i was trying to do...but everyone got caught up on what i had already done >.>
for the record i do realise it wasnt the smartest thing..but my "friends" are not the best in the world and i'm sure they deserved it for one reason or another....if not....well then i'm just cruel, and i don't ever deny that. but as ive said it all turned out good on both works and now i am asking questions and learning..before i do anything more.
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![]() Posted: July/23/2008 at 1:33pm |
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So what do you want to know?
I've not done any scarification myself, although know some theory. I do know infection control, first aid, wound care and anatomy though.... |
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Total Mods: 0 Joined: July/22/2008 Posts: 176 |
![]() Posted: July/23/2008 at 2:26pm |
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infection control would be a good start i think..
and i guess technique...like what depth to cut to, where not to cut, umm...how to get the best scar?
but really infection control wuld be the best i think, good starter info for any body modification.
aside from alcohol or iodine to kill germs...what else?
the two scars ive done for people i basically just thought of all teh cat scratch scars i have and used that as a basis lol...probably not the best method >.>
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Total Mods: 11 Joined: June/14/2007 Location: United States Posts: 342 |
![]() Posted: July/23/2008 at 3:12pm |
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FTR, it's really not that everyone's getting caught up in what you've done as much as getting caught up in the attitude. "My friends are druggies dumbasses who will never make anything of themselves and aren't the best in the world and deserved it for one reason or another...ect"
It's an overtly superior attitude that's really not befitting one with limited experience in all forms of body modification.
Due to your lack of experience and training, people are trying to guide and educate you, and justifying your actions by saying that your friends are asses doesn't really cut it.
You have to realize that even highly trained professionals who do everything by the book can run into problems, so you probably have no idea what you're opening yourself up to. Consider this article from a few yeas ago http://news.bmezine.com/2006/10/06/when-scarification-goes-bad/
As was pointed out earlier, if one of your "druggie friends" died of septiscemia, their parents suing you could be the least of your worries. You could be charged with negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter.
I'm not quite sure of your expectations, but most in the world of body modification online and IRL value safety, sterility, and care for their clients in the shop and in the healing process. Those who don't are typically written off as scratchers or back alley piercers.
I do commend you for wanting to educate yourself before doing anything else on anyone, but you may find people more willing to point you in the right direction if you're more open to constructive criticism. Also, you can find information here about infection control, sterility, and technique, but your best source of knowledge is to learn in a controlled environment with a professional. Nothing that you read online will be an adequate substitute for an apprenticeship. Edited by JenniferR2279 - July/23/2008 at 3:17pm |
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Total Mods: 30 Joined: November/14/2007 Posts: 118 |
![]() Posted: July/24/2008 at 1:13pm |
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You remind me another user we had here named hellshippie he was an idiot, however I give you slightly more credit than I gave him as you are at least trying to better yourself. Still your attitude is fucked to shit. YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE DRUGGIE OR NOT WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I swear I hate people like this with their I'm fucking better than these people cause their just druggies with no goals in life. It's people like you that help create the stigma that drugs are only bad for you and absolutely no good can come of them.
P.S. I don't give a shit if people think I'm being harsh they can all fuck off shes an asshat plain and simple. Edit: ![]() Edited by glimmi - July/24/2008 at 1:15pm |
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Total Mods: 7 Joined: November/20/2007 Posts: 76 |
![]() Posted: July/24/2008 at 1:20pm |
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Look, we're trying to help you here. No, we're probably not giving you the answers you want to hear, but we're telling you what we think is right. What's the point in asking for advice if you refuse to take it on board? Get professional training - simple as. If you want it that badly, waiting for an apprenticeship will be worth it.
And also, just because someone is on drugs doesn't mean it's ok to slash them with a razorblade without using proper techniques.
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