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bellenarcissa
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Posted: March/25/2007 at 11:29am

My husband and I both agree that as soon as a child wants to be pierced, it should be allowed...although I would put restrictions on piercings with a high rejection rate...say, 13-15 range would be better for those types, and absolutely no genital piercings until they turn 18.

We intend to home school, because of situations such as these. I don't believe in allowing someone such influence over my child, especially when I know damn well most teachers try to push their political and moral opinions on the children they're given charge over.

From previous experiences in the school, the child would be better off to take the piercings out. Even if the piercing rule isn't on the books now, you can be sure it'll make it during the summer dress code policy review every school board has before the start of the new year (this happened at my school with hair color and boys wearing skirts) So even if the mom gets an atty. and the boy isn't legally forced to take out his piercings now, he will be during the next year.

Also, it makes me downright sick to my stomach to see infants with pierced ears. That parent has not only put their baby at risk for infection (infants typically have weak or underdeveloped immune systems) and diseases (most infant piercings are done with a gun) But, they have also taken away that child's choice in the matter. Having ones ears pierced is sort of a right of passage through childhood...and that's also been taken away from the child. My ears were pierced when I was 3 years old, by a lady at the hair salon, with a cheap plastic piercing gun. The piercing came out crooked, and apparently the lady told my mom it was my fault because I was crying and trying to pull away, which tells me the piercing was done against my will.

Edited by bellenarcissa - March/25/2007 at 11:33am

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Posted: March/25/2007 at 6:40pm

you must not know...they are federal laws not state laws.and that means all states must abide by federal laws unless that state has an equal or harsher law on the subject in matter.any person who pierces a minor intra oral(any thing that goes into the oral cavity) or genitals should really check his/her morals and standards. a minor is a minor no matter what.

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Posted: March/25/2007 at 7:23pm

You must not know, piercer Adam, that federal laws apply for 5% of humanity.

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Posted: March/25/2007 at 10:28pm

Originally posted by Rouslan

Sort of funny to see how many old spirited conservative bigots you can find amongst young-looking members of what I thought was my community.

Those 20 y.o. people are so old that they probably can't even remember what they were thinking when they were 10 years old. Or maybe they have never been dreaming of mods at that age and only started at 17 to get those mainstream fucking belly piercing and kickass scratch tattoo from the first shitty parlor down the street to look as cool as the crappy TV stars for brainless children?

Originally posted by bellenarcissa

My husband and I both agree that as soon as a child wants to be pierced, it should be allowed...although I would put restrictions on piercings with a high rejection rate...say, 13-15 range would be better for those types, and absolutely no genital piercings until they turn 18.

I can remember at the age of 10 and younger wanting to get tattoos and piercings. And when my mother said no, I was sitting in my room with sewing needles and safety pins playing with different piercings. At the time it was the closest thing I could get to the real thing. I know from being that age that kids who get told no go behind their parents backs and do it anyways. At least this mom was responsible enough and took her kid to a professional. And maybe they have a friend who is a piercer. Look at it this way, at least the kid went out and got a piercing instead of a tattoo. When you get tired of a piercing you can take them out, no real damage done. Just a small scar. As opposed to tattoos that cost thousands of dollars to get removed and leave a huge scar. Look at all the mothers out there who get their small infant daughters ears pierced. That small child has no say in any part of whats going on,but moms think it's so adorable to get their child's ears pierced so they bring them to some girl working a job while she's in high school, instead of waiting until the child is older and can make their own decisions. I agree with the age restrictions on tattoos,but piercings are different. Different in the sense that they can be taken out.
An eyebrow piercing is no different than an ear piercing or a lip piercing. The only difference is the placement of the metal. Its a 10 year old kid branching out in his own personality and learning to take on responsibility.
I see nothing wrong with it.

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Posted: March/26/2007 at 10:01am

yes but 99% of kids wouldn't take care of their piercings either... kids are sort of idiots about that stuff... One of my friends in 5th grade almost lost part of her ear because she didn't take care of her piercing. Luckily, my OCD forced me to painstakingly care for each and every wound/piercing/bug bite I had...so I never got infections in anything. (until last year when I had my Monroe get infected, which sucked)
And saying you might as well allow someone to do something because they're going to do it anyway, is just downright bad parenting. Kids will do anything if they think they can get away with it. Just because a 10 year old will sneak ciggarettes behind his parent's back doesn't mean you should allow it to go on.

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Posted: March/26/2007 at 3:57pm

well played..well played.
but we are that 5%.so i do know.it is my job to know what laws i need to follow.state or federal.there are states that do not regulate their piercers and then it becomes the piercers them self that need to step up and find out what laws apply to the piercing community and follow them.we walk a thin line on somethings and we all need to account for our actions no matter how minor they are.it is those small details that set us apart from the other guys that don't care about them selfs the shop and most of all the client.morals,ethics and standards are what make us body piercers,modification artists and a good industry in whole.
no one should dictate what we can and can not do to our body(thanks bear).
but kids do not think about the long run affects of being pierced i.e scars,getting riped out,infections and so on.most adults barely understand these concepts,and i am suppost to believe a ten year old doe's?you all thought you new all about every thing at ten.i did.and i was wrong like every one else.

Edited by piercer adam - March/26/2007 at 4:26pm

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Posted: March/26/2007 at 4:05pm

Originally posted by bellenarcissa

And saying you might as well allow someone to do something because they're going to do it anyway, is just downright bad parenting. Kids will do anything if they think they can get away with it. Just because a 10 year old will sneak ciggarettes behind his parent's back doesn't mean you should allow it to go on.

Well said.

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Posted: March/26/2007 at 4:48pm

wow, personally i think thats too young for facial piercings, because at that age your still growing.. you know? i think its great that he's into the whole culture and everything but its bad parenting.. and bad piercer-professionalism..

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Posted: March/26/2007 at 6:57pm

Age and social acceptance.

Some ideas :

In the bible, you can find out a clear passage where a guy and a woman get married, get their own house and start their life. They are 12 and 11 years old.

In New Zealand and in Tahiti, full body tattoo started being performed at the age of 11 for those who could afford it. Therefore, unless you consider that maori and polynesian tattoo art were pure crap (please send in your nude pictures so that I can compare the harmony of your full body suit with the ones of those primitive savages), you have to admit that it's fully viable, both from technical and artistic standard, to get tattoos as a children.

It is socialy acceptable to see babies with ear piercings. Even if I disagree with such a practise, I have to say that I can't see any difference between a hole in the ear, in the nose or in any other visible part of a human face. Therefore, if a lot of people seem to find it acceptable to pierce their children against their wills, I find it acceptable to let a children what he wants with what is HIS body.

"he won't be able to do the aftercare" : I have more than 70 piercings. All are self done, and I guess that I can say that some of them are not the easiest ones from technical point of view. I have NEVER done any kind of aftercare apart from hygiene, and can tell you that YOU DON'T NEED MORE to heal up a piercing. If you wish to spend hours cleaning up (and quite certainly irritating) your pretty holes, it's up to you...

Anyway, if you tell him no while you're pierced-tattoed yourself, you have strictly no credibility.

"Just because a 10 year old will sneak ciggarettes behind his parent's back doesn't mean you should allow it to go on."

Well ... maybe, you certainly have to set up rules for a kid, but I know more people that died from diseases linked with ciggarettes than people who died because of piercings. By the way, piercing your own body does not harms your vicinity whereas smoke can kill your close relatives.

On the whole, it's up to EVERY reasonnable parent to set up his own limits for his kids. It's certainly not the role of society to set up those rules. Piercings, tattoos are another form of self expression, an act of freedom. Most of you share that view. Therefore, it's not up to you to say that you think that 10 isn't reasonnable, and that 16 is good...

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Posted: March/26/2007 at 7:04pm

"just because a 10 year old will"....

A10 year old isn't a thing, or a creature that is sooo inferior to you. A 10 year old is a human being. A 10 year old is ALWAYS a different person. We are all different. Some 10 years old children are retarded, some are geniuses. Some can understand evoluated notions while some other ones may be perfect idiots. Some 12 years old girls are already able to act like adult women. We are all different, so I think that as a parent, the first thing you have to do is not to consider your kid as a "10 year old", but as a person, which in some cases may perfectly be able to deal with a piercing or a tattoo.

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