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Quote PinkHairedGuy Replybullet Topic: Tongue Splitting Question (Tongue Webbing, Split Further Back)
    Posted: May/31/2014 at 5:52pm

Hey,

I've decided to get my tongue split for a while now. I've been searching online for the best methods to do it, and I've decided that I'm most probably going to go with the binding method. Reasons for this are that I don't want to spend a lot of money, and I also just feel more comfortable doing a gradual split rather than having my tongue cut in two.

Anyway, I've searched a lot of things but there is still one question I have that I can't find the answer to, which is why I decided to create an account and post on a forum. A lot of people, whether through the binding method or through the scalpel method, seem to have a pretty short split. Obviously noticeable, but not very far back. There are then of course people who have their tongues split farther back, or who have in time split the tongue farther back. My question was 'how is this possible? You can't pierce too far back due to the tongue webbing, and you probably can't cut far back otherwise you'd cut the webbing as well.' So obviously I searched how to split it farther back, and I have absolutely no results whatsoever.

So I wondered, and obviously tell me if I'm wrong, does your tongue webbing kind of shift further back on your tongue once you've split it (a short split at first), which would then allow for you to pierce further back again and split that area. Then, over time, you repeat the process until you have it as far back as you want. Is this the case? If not, how does one get their tongue split further back? I've heard of tongue/lingual Frenectomy, is that what's needed to split it back farther? Or is there a way to split it back without going through that surgical procedure?


Thank you so much for any info you might be able to give me, this is the one question that I have been needing an answer to for quite some time.
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Quote evalution Replybullet Posted: May/31/2014 at 6:08pm
Here is a picture of what Samppa believes is his longest tongue split, measuring 2 inches long.

I get that you don't want to save money, but if you want a lasting tongue split that is well done, honestly, the way to go is to get it done by a professional. The stitching done after cutting a tongue with the healing process, and none of this exists with the binding method.

In some situations, I'm sure removing the frenulum is necessary for a longer split. Not everyone has the same exact anatomy; some frenulums are more pronounced and attached in a way that creates a longer web than others do. Again, seeing a professional who could attend to this issue and to the tongue split would probably be your healthiest option.

Obviously, you could go have an expensive dental surgery to have your frenulum removed and then bind yourself, but I don't think this would be any cheaper than just going to a professional body mod artist, and I don't think you'd get the same results. That's my opinion, though, and people choose to do things the way they choose for their own reasons.

Good luck in your further search for information.
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Quote PinkHairedGuy Replybullet Posted: May/31/2014 at 6:38pm
I get what you're saying, but it still doesn't answer my question.

I don't get, in any method period, how you are supposed to get your tongue up to 2" if you have tongue webbing in the way. There's a girl on youtube I follow who started with a shorter split, then after some time had it split further back. So I'm wondering if the tongue webbing heals further back on the tongue after an initial split, which would mean you could split it further back later, or if it just stays where it was before. I just don't get how anyone can cut back further without hitting the tongue webbing. Plus, from what I'm seeing, most of the original splits done are shorter/shallow in the beginning. So that's my question, how is this possible with the tongue webbing? Does the tongue webbing move back? Are the people with 2" splits just awesome and are their tongue webbings super far back on their tongue so that a 2" split is possible from the beginning?

And I'll get it surgically done if I have to, I just would rather not have it cut, have stitches, and have to go through that healing process that's all.
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Quote evalution Replybullet Posted: June/01/2014 at 7:28pm
That healing process is what keeps you from ending up with a really tiny forked tongue in the end, a lot of the time. If healing isn't (and sometimes is) done correctly, you can have a lot of regrowth.

As I was saying before, I'm pretty sure that the difference in length of the split, a lot of time, has to do with the difference in anatomical placement of the frenulum (so yes, some are further back) or having already had the frenulum cut.

I don't believe that it will shift after an initial cut. I think that some individuals are unhappy with how the procedure was performed and/or healed the first time and then have it cut further back during a second procedure. Ie, I think the second procedure is due to a preference for a longer cut than initially healed, due to choice of initial cut length, artist ability, or healing, not because the tongue changed.

It might be best to make an inquiry about such questions with a professional like Samppa who does tongue splits on a regular basis.
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Quote SaintGabu Replybullet Posted: June/02/2014 at 1:40am
my favorite guy for tongue splits is gabriele gabbo di dio, he does some of the deepest splits i've ever seen and they all look amazing, his technique involves three parts which i'm not gonna list here because it's fucking advanced and people might think "oh, i can do that", when in reality they can not

first thing is, you may think you feel better with the binging method, but i can almost guarantee you that it'll only take two days to change your mind once you start, and even by going that far you'll already be risking serious infection

to get a deep split you have to anchor it (and before you ask, i don't mean with a piercing), in reality if you go with the binding method you'll first have to get a tongue piercing, which cannot be done on your tongue web or very close to it for a whole bunch of reasons, but if you go for the scalpel, you can go almost as far as your throat if the artist is experienced with some more advanced techniques (i'd recommend samppa, gabriele or rata in that case)

once again, talking about the binding method, no you can't split it deep, even if you get a frenectomy you won't be able to pierce where your frenum was because it's far too deep and might damage the tissue underneath your tongue; the binding method also takes around two weeks to get even the shortest split, and it hurts, for those two weeks you'll be regretting every second you even thought about doing it that way, most people give up less than halfway through and go for the scalpel, some people get their tongues so swollen before it's done that they can't properly close their mouths for days

to be honest, the binding method is not a way to split your tongue, it's a form of self-modification akin to some suspensions (namely ones like guiche, rotisserie or achilles suspension), people do it for the hell of it, they know it'll hurt, they know it'll be hell and they don't care they just want to do it; anyone going for the "cheaper way of splitting your tongue" will quit and will resort to the scalpel to finish what they could not
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Quote portermark Replybullet Posted: September/29/2014 at 2:08am
I split mine, hardly any pain during split, bloody as hell. Never hurt afterwards, was fairly painless, just took the guts to go through with it
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Quote Azathotep Replybullet Posted: September/29/2014 at 11:36am
I think the webbing under your tongue does dictate how far back you can get a split. Some people have a very restrictive frenulum linguae. For instance, my youngest girl was born with a frenulum linguae that went all the way to the tip of her tongue and up the top slightly and required surgery at 24hrs. old to cut it back or she would never be able to talk.

The frenulum does not shift back. It would have to be cut and only a professional should ever do this. I would no recommend slicing your frenulum EVER and I am 100% for tongue splitting. What I think you see is that everyone has some healing/regrowth and some end up with a lot and that means that after it is all said and done, the split is quite a bit shorter than what they originally envisioned.

A professional body mod artist will stitch you up and help prevent the regrowth as best as they can. Even then, there will be some regrowth.

In any case, many people go for a second split because the regrowth made a shorter split than they wanted. You are limited by your individual characteristics on how far back you can safely split. With no frenulum linguae and/or too far back a split you can really mess yourself up and never speak or choke and so on. Please have it done by a pro, or if you bind, just accept a shorter split.

I'm with you on wanting a deep split. It is what I want also and I have been researching for months and also talking with professional piercers nearby and the contacts they have with serious body modder professionals that travel the country doing the extreme stuff.

Also remember that even tongue splitting may be illegal in some jurisdictions in the USA and some other countries unless done by a plastic surgeon. So, be careful about who you deal with and if you talk to a modder that can split tongues and get the smallest doubt in you head about them being a good artist etc. just walk away. You don't want someone that doesn't know what they are doing, cutting your tongue up and somehow jacking you up permanently because they were relying on the "shadyness" of the procedure locally and your willingness. So, just be careful and ask a lot of questions.

disclaimer: I strongly advise following all local laws and regulations etc. and so on. In no way should you take this story as advice to break any local laws or regulations regarding body modification.

Edited by Azathotep - September/29/2014 at 11:37am
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Quote portermark Replybullet Posted: October/04/2014 at 4:11am
Can be done 100% painless, mine was. Used serrated blade and sawed through, much less pain, and more control vs. Razor or scalpel.

Edited by portermark - October/04/2014 at 4:12am
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Quote portermark Replybullet Posted: October/07/2014 at 9:37pm
A piercing can be used to prevent regrowth. After the split, pierce far back, use a CBR(ring). The ring will prevent regrowth
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