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   Topic: Dr. Numb & other anestheticsPosted: June/14/2010 at 4:10pm |
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Hi!!
Well.... im planning on getting some more ink done in my back ""project"" and wanted 2 know if any1 has used this Dr. Numb thing or know any other topical anesthetic cream/gel/... that i could use and that works!! Yes yes yes i know im a wussy.... lol but im planning on trying to do a 4/5h session and i really dont fancy the  pain......
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 5:09pm |
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sorry, i wouldn't know. i hate numbing agents! 4 hours 15 minutes is the longest session i've had and it was quite ok, though tiring!
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 5:46pm |
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Dr Numb is about the best you can buy (OTC at least), it is not cheap, but it lasts for a long while, might even do you for your session but, it is about $45 a tube, a tube will do you an area more or less of your open hand but it WORKS!
There is also Super T Gel though I don't think it is as good as Dr N. If anyone give you griefs about numbing agents, that the pain is part of the process and shit (and they will), tell them to stop being a fucking pussy the next time they go to the dentist and show you how tough they are! Pain is part of having root canal, do they forgo the numbing there too????? Numbing, or not, is your own personal choice and you should feel ok with whatever choice you make!! Edited by JClaude - June/14/2010 at 5:57pm |
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 5:59pm |
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anal eeze m friend... my mo uses it before getting anything done
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 6:01pm |
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Dr Numb is shit. If you can find a pharmacist, and ask him to do a BLT gel, you'll have a really efficient numbing product. Mine is doing it for me, for three times cheaper than the shit discussed in the topic.
Dr Numb is going to be sth like 13% of lidocain and prilocain, and a BLT gel will be around 20% of lidocain, 8% of benzocain and 4% of tetracain.
BLT gel has been forbidden by US FDA after two unfortunate lethal cases (where two debilian beauticians - sorry for the pleonasm - packed full legs in BLT gel in order to perform laser leg hair removal). But as long as you use reasonnable amounts of this cream, it's not dangerous.
I've been watching the ads on Dr Numb website a few months ago. They tell it quite clearly that you musn't use the product on open skin. Then, in promo video, you see a guy getting a backpiece done getting his back fully packed in cream in the middle of the tattoo. Hot hot hot.
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 6:03pm |
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Numbing gels can harden the skin and make the process of inking more difficult. Plus, you end up hurting more when you defreeze and you realize everything is fucking sore. Leave your natural adrenaline do the job.
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 6:09pm |
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Do you tattoo?
Numbing gels make tattoo sessions MUCH better. I don't use them a lot, but only when I need it.
If you need to finish a tattoo on a customer that leaves for north pole and will never come back, but is in big pain, numbing gel.
If you do a tattoo on somebody who's taking the pain too bad and is moving a lot, being dangerous for the artist, numbing gel.
If you want to tattoo really painful spots, numbing gel.
And I'm using them like two three times per week, and have NEVER noticed anything about skin change. So please, when you have zero experience with a particular topic, saying nothing would be logical.
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 6:11pm |
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Yeah, you see, choose something less powerful that does work (you dont need anything stronger then Dr Numb for a tat), or choose something stronger, banned by the FDA and that caused people to die...my what a difficult choice!!
Dr. Numb is not shit!
Edited by JClaude - June/14/2010 at 6:14pm |
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 6:14pm |
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Another thing, my tattoo artist does tell me it is easier for him tattoo someone that is numbed because he feels more relaxed to work as well, with the pain factor out of the equation, though he never offers it and only regulars or people that mention it get it.
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Posted: June/14/2010 at 6:24pm |
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If you have ANY knowledge with anesthetical, JClaude, you'll understand that the risk of Dr Numb is exactly the same as the risk of BLT gel, as long as you use three times more Dr Numb gel than BLT gel. Dr Numb is 6.5% of lidocain and 6.5% of prilocain, and BLT gel is going to be 32% of benzocain, lidocain and tetracain.
Plus you seem to forget that USA are not the world. FDA is the law in your country, not in mine. And I know quite well what I'm doing.
I use my product to numb full areas during a tattoo, when the skin is open. For me, 50 grs of BLT gel will be good for 50 or 100 tattoos. That is, I'll use between half a gram and a gram of it, on every tattoo. No more.
Just look at Dr Numb videos. They use three or four tubes for a single tattoo session. 200 dollars, 200 grams of product, on closed skin before tattoo AND open skin during tattoo. I use 2% of a pot that costs me 15 dollars, for the same result. So ... quite probably, tetracain has to be much, much more effective than everything they put in Dr Numb. Quite certainly because it's one of the most powerful topical anesthetic. And therefore one of the most secures, since you can use infenitesimal quantities for decent numbing effects.
By the way, my pharmacist, which isn't precisely an idiot, asked me questions before he started to provide me that stuff. He was quite aware of FDA ban.
That's what I said above. Numbing allows to get better results, and work in more secure conditions when you have a customer that can't control his movements when you tattoo him.
Again, as long as I can avoid it, I'll avoid it. But if the result of the tattoo is going to be obviously better and my security improved, no hesitation : I check up if the guy know about any known allergias to anestheyics, and if it's possible I use it. Edited by TattooBox - June/14/2010 at 6:28pm |
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