Originally posted by Lunch_Box_Ink 2)  The references in the bIble tword modification is COMPLETLEY out of context and is NOT the same as what we do.  It referse to religous, or pagan practices that were to "false Gods" and other such things that would have been considerd against God in THAT TIME!  Alot of what the Bible speaks has to do with that era and thier culture.  the way and reasons we pierce ourself, or most of us pierce ourselfs are not at all the same as what the Bible speaks about. God's concern is with a person's heart and spirit!  not a temporary dying flesh sack that holds the soul for a time that is only going to die and decay anyway

Honestly, most of what's in the Bible is taken out of context and the vast majority of it doesn't apply to our modern society. Period. I am a Christian, I go to church regularly, I'm glad to talk about it with anyone who wants to talk with me. I'm a body modification enthusiast. I also ate pork for breakfast (the Bible says we shouldn't do that, as it is "dirty" meat) and I don't kill two pigeons every time I start my period (which the Bible says I should do).

Honestly, there are more understanding and accepting Christians out there than there are judgmental ones, especially (in my experience) when it comes to piercings and tattoos. The problem is that you only hear about the unaccepting ones. I think of it the same way I think of bad news -- I like it when there's bad news, because the minute they start reporting mostly good news, it means the bad news isn't news any more, it's commonplace.

I fully agree with Lunch Box... God really doesn't care about what you look like as long as what's on the inside is good. He doesn't so much look at what's done as the intent behind it.

Edited by Shelliokin - December/14/2008 at 12:23pm

Lunch_Box_Ink said everything!

Thus we come to the "old testament" "new testament" arguement which I really dont feel like getting into.

Truth be told I hate discussing theology with people because everyones views are different. Lunch box hit it really close as did shelli, what went on then is completely different than now. Pork is a dirty meat to the Jewish, not the prodestant, and if not for that, pig farmers would go broke.

 Ear piercing and tattooing have been around for centuries, it all comes down to your reasoning. If one were to say "im going to have my ears pierced to defy you God." Then yes, that would be a sin I suppose. But doing it to decorate your body, your temple, I assume wouldnt be.

If a simple piercing (facial or otherwise) can shake a persons faith in God or whatever other being they choose to follow, then, that person didnt have much faith at all did they? And if ridicule by hard-nose, up tight, hypocritical "christians" about your body modifications makes you question your faith or yourself as a person then you never had much faith, did you?

 

Edited by zombiemaster - December/14/2008 at 11:21pm

im just glad that my church isnt like this. the people there dont say its a sin or anything to have piercings/stretched lobes, in fact they seem more interested in how its done or remark how beautiful it is (like if im wearing glasswear or something) or just dont pay attention. i dont really know their stance on tattoos though mostly because i am the most modified person at my church and still lack any ink...im sure i would get some shit if i had a scarification or branding or a subdermal or something along those lines tho...

Topics like this make me happy that I don't believe in a god. I don't have to get into these kind of arguments over nothing. haha